
By Ann Pettifor
There is a ferocious battle being played out around how we should interpret and understand the financial crisis and its consequences. And I am not talking about the crude and quite hysterical response to the budget in the Conservative press today. That we can safely ignore. No, it’s more than that. It’s about key economic issues, and it’s vital that we all grasp them, and fight the good fight on behalf of those who will be victims of orthodox economic ideology.
The orthodox storyline goes like this: the most momentous crisis facing the world is government debt – not economic failure and collapse; not the collapse of private investment; not financial instability, or deflation, or currency volatility or the threat of a dangerous rise in protectionism and a new global trade war. And certainly not the rise in unemployment. No, the biggest threat facing civilisation is the rise in government debt.
Why? Because the rise in government debt ‘crowds out’ private debt. In other words, creditors (bankers and other lenders) can’t sell credit/loans at high prices (or rates of interest) if governments are in the markets selling or offering debt at lower rates of interest. So government debt must be cut! The public sector must be shrunk!
Today’s Financial Times spells out very clearly these lines of debate – and where the FT and its supporters in the Tory Party and City of London stand. Martin Wolf, a highly respected FT commentator, writes:
"Since the economy is substantially smaller than expected, the size of the state has to follow. The question is how and when.”
That’s it. No questions asked. The logic, it appears, is unassailable. The size of the state has to shrink.
Precisely the same logic was applied during the 1929 crash. The consequences then were deflation, economic failure, currency volatility, the rise of protectionism and trade wars, and of course a massive rise in unemployment.
It was only when President Roosevelt took the reins after 4 years of such economic logic – in 1933 – that the US economy turned around. And it was only when J. M. Keynes took the reins at the Bank of England and the Treasury – also in 1933 – that the UK economy started to turn around, and government debt started to fall.
I point you once again to my favoured chart. It’s one that should be pasted on the wall of every single Labour Party candidate’s election HQ.
Keynes (and Roosevelt) had proposed a different logic. To paraphrase:
“Since the economy is substantially smaller than expected, government must take action to re-boot the economy, and to stimulate economic activity – in both the public and private spheres. By re-booting the economy, government can expect to generate revenues – to pay for the re-booting.”
Of course they had never heard of the term re-booting, but that pretty much is what they argued, and what they went on to do. And it worked. Look at the chart and see what happens to government debt between 1933 and the start of the war in 1939. It falls, quite precipitously. That’s because economic activity generates tax revenues. Government spending pays for itself. Yesterday, the Chancellor was right to boast about the £11 billion fall in government borrowing: it was the direct result of the mini fiscal stimulus of last year. The improvement has come from tax receipts and the stimulus measures adopted, including the cut in VAT.
Regrettably it has not come from employment taxes. This demonstrates, nevertheless, that taxes are key to correcting the deficit, and that stimulus works in reducing the deficit. The remainder of the £11bn improvement has come from lower-than-anticipated gilt yields. In other words, the government paid less for its debt on the international markets than many – including FT writers – had predicted.
So much for: "cuts are needed to reassure financial markets and persuade them to lend to the government at lower rates of interest". With those numbers Darling has seen off the deficit hawks in the Tory Party, the Institute of Fiscal Studies, the City and the BBC. He has been proved right: a little fiscal stimulus staved off even higher unemployment and bankruptcies – and helped stabilise the economy.
Today John Authers of the Financial Times interprets this fall in borrowing in this way:
“the government’s borrowing needs are somewhat lower than had been expected by the market (at £163 bn against expectations of about £185 bn) thanks to spending cuts."
This is contradictory: on the one hand the FT complains that spending cuts are inadequate, on the other it argues that the fall in government borrowing is precisely due to spending cuts. Spending cuts vs stimulus.
The FT and the Tories are winning this argument, and the consequences for the Labour movement are dire. Because private sector investment continues to fall; because £46 billion was taken out of the economy last year; and because government is being brow-beaten into contributing to further falls in economic activity (by cutting spending) we can look forward to: rising unemployment, falling wages, rocketing bankruptcies and deflation (which increases the cost of debt). The numbers of those in full-time employment will continue to fall, and so will real wages.
This will lead to a loss of confidence in democratic institutions, to votes for those that promise to deal with the crisis by authoritarian means, and to social unrest. Regrettably, instead of using the better borrowing numbers as proof, and as a springboard for an even greater stimulus, the Chancellor yesterday began the process of fiercely turning down the public spending screw.
So, there is a great deal at stake in this ideological debate. Labour Party members must get stuck in.

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I have a LOT of admiration for your passion, commitment and experience and would welcome your comment on my 10-year analysis of the UK's budget, and especially how the crisis reveals its real purpose. See http://bit.ly/aYhEnT
I fear it's beyond the Labour / Tory division, but I still would love to see you as MP!
Sabine
Organiser, Forum for Stable Currencies
http://forumforstablecurrencies.info
http://publicdebts.org.uk
Wishing you both a lovely weekend.
Jo.
Sometimes it gets exhausting, and tempers fray!
He is one of the few genuine Labour voices on a Labour campaigning site.That seems fair enough to me.
Otherwise we might just as well roll over and call it "Con Home."
Actually Ludwig may well vote Green - so it's odd that a genuine non tribalist centre left voice, one who displays wit, intelligence, and a regular reference to facts, gets called a 'tribalist'.
Pure psychological projection.
"Government spending pays for itself. Yesterday, the Chancellor was right to boast about the £11 billion fall in government borrowing: it was the direct result of the mini fiscal stimulus of last year. The improvement has come from tax receipts and the stimulus measures adopted, including the cut in VAT."
A "fall" in projected borrowing from £178 billion to £169 billion is still a massive increase in borrowing, just a slightly lower increase than forecast. If the Chancellor was boasting about that then he is an idiot.
Keynes advocated repaying debt in good years so what did the great Gordo do in the good years before the recession? Act like a good Keynesian and repay debt? Or spend more than he got in year after year after year?
Yes, you guessed right - he ran up debts, creating a boom fueled by ever-increasing and unsustainable government spending (financed by borrowing) and a property boom (itself fueled by low interest rates because monetary policy was fixed by the Bank of England by reference to a measure of inflation which ignored property prices: a measure chosen by the clown of clowns).
So now (i) we were hit badly (contrary to fatuous suggestions that we were best placed to weather the storm) and (ii) we are the last of the major economies out of recession(and the recovery is weak and uncertain) again contrary to the nonsense spouted from No 10.
If it's now proven, can we see the data from the control group, please?
Now that we have a recession which is severely exacerbated by that anti-keynesian fiscal indiscipline we get economic illiterates lecturing us on the importance of counter-cyclical spending.
Presumably if Labour get elected again and the economy eventually splutters into life then Keynesian principles will go out the window and we'll be back to massive public sector expansion plans during the upward part of the cycle (before switching gear to massive public sector expansion during the following recession).
As with the 'golden rule' principles are an easy thing to stick to in the times when they mandate policies which you want to implement anyway. As soon as you get to the point at which your ruleset requires painful readjustment you throw them out the window and put in a new rulebook which you justify according to another equally high-minded principle.
Your analysis of the thirties is deeply flawed.
You seem ignorant of the fact that the US had a double-dip recession in the late 30s, for example.
You ignore monetary policy, which is a fundamental error. The UK came off the gold standard and grew quickly. Mismanagement of the US money supply, in contrast, kept them in recession or low growth until war kicked in. People have won Nobel prizes demonstrating this - and I listen to them before I listen to you.
You also seem unaware of "opportunity cost". Think about it. You could give £10bn to be spent by a Cabinet of left-wing politicos who have never really worked in the commercial sector or led a large-scale project, and who are in hock to left-wing unions who demand that their feather-bedding continues - or you could give the money to the creative comercial sector to invest and employ and pay tax.
Labour is going down the former route, taxing private companies such as Sainsbury and BAE and BUPA - a tax on jobs in a recession! - and spending the money on smoking cessation officers and 5-a-day co-ordinators and unreformed public services and benefit defined pensions for the public sector.
The sad reality is that Labour has tested the democratic socialist model to destruction and our grandchildren will pay the heavy price.
PS
Keynes didn't publish his General Theory until 1936: rendering the idea that "Keynsianism" saved the UK and US in the 30s a trifle surprising.
'Opportunity cost'? Well, what about an alternative cost-benefit analysis: Sainsbury sucks in imports which consumers buy, affecting the balance of payments - induced expenditure; the prices are designed so that immense bonuses can be paid to thousands of managers in the upper tiers - with our money which is collected from us. BUPA - taxing that is just another re-distributive tax. BUPA produces nothing. Instead, government directs tax from these two (and corporation tax here is relatively low by international comparisons) to new industries such as energy security and green investment.
Personally, I advocate shopping at the Co-op, using your divi card, and giving the pence element to charity.
I don't think you understand the crowding out effect of govt debt. Banks/creditors do not go and sell to debtors. Borrowers come to them looking for finance.
As sovereign debt increases, two things happen. Firstly, yields tend to rise and spreads also tend to rise. This makes it harder for borrowers to get attractive rates, and it also means that many investors (specifically pension funds) who are looking for a particular return don't need to go for risky corp bonds when safer govvies can give them the yield they need.
The other effect is caused as simply, there is only so much money out there to be invested. When fund balance sheets get overloaded they are simply incapable of adding more credit to their sheets, wether they like it or not.
What do you think will happen though, if spending does continue unabated, and we get to a Greece situation where investors are not willing to fund such a deficit? What happens then, when we effectively run out of money? Print more? Do you think that growth is going to be so high that it will somehow outpace the growing debt mountain? If you do, I'm afraid you are in some fantasy land.
It's a BAD sign not a good one.
And, as I say above, its harder for small businesses to get financing at the moment, predominantly due to crowding out (which Ann seems to think doesn't exist).
So what do you make of that, Daniel Lanyi?
Respect!
Jo.
Cheers!
But I fear things will get worse before the light dawns as to the reality of the system.
no way can any party now convince the country we should spend scare money on that
You claim that the government stimulus helped save, or reduce the budget deficit by £11bn. This may be partly true....
...except the stimulus was worth about £15bn.
So by your own logic, more spending will actually sink us even deeper into debt.
So by your own logic, more spending will actually sink us even deeper into debt.
Possibly by her logic, but spending on creating productive assets funded by QE wouldn't, because it's not debt.
I am pretty certain that QE used for direct investment would cause a massive distortion in the private sector (as the government would be able to outcompete private investment -printing cash, lower rates and legislative power) as well as causing inflation, devaluation of the currency and long term debt problems. Its a short term patch, not a long term solution, and I strongly believe that long term use would cause severe harm to the economy. The country is addicted enough to the state's teat - QE would only make it worse.
QE is definately debt though - albeit future debt. You still either have to remove the QE amount borrowed at the end of the period, or roll it over by issuing more debt.
Definately definately definately debt.
Lets face it though, resorting to name-calling is pretty pathetic.
Is that really the best you can do?
Is that an attempt to tamp down the personal conflict, or an invitation to a flame fest?
To be precise, a typographical error is the fault of a typesetter. When you repeat a spelling error three times, you're asking for a friendly correction.
I prefer to call them misprunts: we all make them.
No nuance, no depth, and the same old talking points again and again.
No I think that you just take perverse pleasure in pointing out peoples mistakes. Perhaps you need an ego boost every now and again.
I thought behaviour like this ended when Draper and eventually Charles Hardwidge left this site. Even the editor has mentioned it but for some reason you still think its big and clever.
You're just cruising for bruising with a comment like that: no political content at all.
Of course I'm sure you'd like to deter Ludwig from this site because he's smart, funny, and generally sources his comments with links, graphs and facts.
The last two comments you've made Craig have been completely ad personam:completely transparent attempts at a wind up.
It's a credit to Ludwig that you're trying to discourage him this way: he's a threat to you.
Now, back to the subject...
Making petty, snide remarks about spelling and grammar do not count as a contribution in my book.
as the worst speller on here (i think) , whe people attack the spelling instead of the point from what ever side it shows a lack of respect , I hope this site NEVER goes back to the dark days where people faered posting for being mocked .
Danny
Good point: but my spelling's quite good just because it's my trade. I still get regularly mocked though.
Have a great day.
I thought Alex has done a good job turning this site around where we have debate on the policys more than personalties , I just hope it never goes back to how it was , and i hope people will debate the policys and not mock people for typos .
Have a good day yourself
Danny
You write a great deal more sense than the spelling/grammar nitpickers, so don't worry. Publically pointing out other people's alleged spelling or grammatical mistakes is some people's way of asserting their superiority. It achieves the opposite.
"You write a great deal more sense than the spelling/grammar nitpickers, so don't worry. "
not so sure about this but thanks :)
Danny
Just sayin'...
I guess that means the subject is closed now, but you could of just said STFU. Maybe you prefer the Mandelson approach to threats, not the "clunking fist" :~)
You are under a misapprehension.
I am not proposing that QE be used only for public sector investment in productive assets. It should be the source of all the credit necessary for the circulation of goods and services and the creation of all productive assets, whether public or private.
It should be available for investment in private sector productive assets as well. There is no question of 'out-competition' then, is there?
The result of a supply of public credit under professional management and the oversight of a Monetary Authority is simply the dis-intermediation of banks as credit intermediaries, and a transition to service provision.
This approach is actually in the interests of banks - who are pretty much insolvent, but allowed to window dress their accounts by 'mark to fantasy' and 'extend and pretend' - since their capital requirement is reduced to that necessary to cover operating costs.
As for QE, don't take my word for it, read Henry Liu - IMHO the best alive on the issue.
In particular....
Monetary economists view government-issued money as a sovereign debt instrument with zero maturity, historically derived from the bill of exchange in free banking.
This view is valid only for specie money, which is a debt certificate that can claim on demand a prescribed amount of gold or other specie of intrinsic value. But fiat money issued by a sovereign government is not a sovereign debt but a sovereign credit instrument.
In my analysis, QE has more in common with a redeemable share than it does with debt, and it would be used only to create new assets, which would be refinanced with pension investment once complete, and the QE retired and recycled.
We are, as Liu goes on to say, labouring under a cosmic misunderstanding, and a paradigm shift in thinking is needed...
If fiat money is not sovereign debt, then the entire conceptual structure of finance capitalism is subject to reordering, just as physics was subject to reordering when man's worldview changed with the realization that the earth is not stationary nor is it the center of the universe.
This is how QE works, in simple stages:
1. BoE "prints" money and buys 10y Gilts from investors, injecting cash into financial system.
2. In 10y time, Gilts BoE holds mature. BoE is left long cash, DMO is left short cash (as they have to pay the BoE).
3. Either
BoE must now clear cash off the register (destroying it electronically), flattening their cash position
OR
DMO must issue more Gilts to cover its cash position, which the BoE then buys (thus rolling the position).
I hope the above makes it very clear that QE is "credit" only between two government arms. To the market as a whole, especially to investors in Gilts, it is debt, albeit as I have said before, future debt. It's the bond equivalent of a forward starting interest rate swap. I don't really know how many other ways i can say or show it.
Debt debt debt debt debt debt.
You can't just hope to print money and not distort whatever market you enter.
And yet that is exactly what banks do and always have done since the Mississippi Bubble was funded by John Law's Banque Royale.
I rest my case.
You have just defined the problem with credit creation ex nihilo by credit intermediaries, whether Treasuries, central banks or private banks.
All credit - and whether it is created for use in the public or private sector is irrelevant - can and should be public credit, and the credit creation process should be managed professionally by banking service providers - no reason at all why these should not be private - with a stake in the outcome, and supervised professionally by a Monetary Authority.
You seem to be saying that it's somehow unfair and 'distorting' to deprive bank management of excessive or unearned income, and shareholders of dividends?
The problem is that because of systemic shortage of capital, private banks are currently not doing their job. If they are not prepared to put their capital at risk, then they will still have the choice of participating in the management of public credit creation and competing on cost and quality of service.
Re QE, as Henry Liu points out, credit and debt are mirror images. The models of almost the entire economics profession are based on the premise that it is debt which is being monetised. It is in fact credit that is being monetised, and this completely wrecks their assumptions.
Perhaps I might explain the difference this way.
Undated Debt is redeemable at the option of the provider of the finance, as anyone with a bank overdraft will know.
Undated Credit (quasi-equity) such as QE, or notes and coin - which are essentially anonymously held QE (akin to bearer shares) - are redeemable/retirable at the option of the user of the finance.
Can you not understand the qualitative difference?
So QE is NOT debt, but credit, and it is functionally diametrically opposite in effect: it is why Liu refers to a credit instrument, rather than a debt instrument, and the difference is analogous to that between matter (credit) and anti-matter (a bank claim over a borrower's credit).
We are talking about a paradigm shift in thinking here, Daniel, and that is never easy to grasp.
THe latest one has that little green line going up to near the 100% mark.
You stated elsewhere that the UK had experienced the deepest recession in the G8 (or maybe it was even the G20). So do you disagree with Darling's numbers?
'The impact has meant the UK economy has contracted by around 6 per cent over the course of the recession.
This compares to 8 per cent in Japan, 7 per cent in Germany and 4 per cent in America.'
Congratulations you have just invented the equivalent of a perpetual motion machine.
Perhaps for your next trick you can turn to alchemy and turn lead into gold?
The size of the public sector is now so big it swallows more than half of our GDP.
There is a clue in that statistic. Something is horribly wrong.
It is time for you to wake up - the "protecting the recovering" line is just Gordon and Ed's spin that covers the stupid "investment versus cuts" dividing line they are trying to fake and make us swallow.
....as we now know,however,Darling is being honest. Cuts more savage than Thatchers will be required. Well done Gordon - that is quite an achievement!
Something is horribly wrong.
Orwell would be proud of the Big Lie propagated by apologists like you for the 10% of the population who own most of the country's unencumbered wealth and to whom the other 90% are now indebted.
This Big Lie is the assumption that the Public Sector is 'unproductive' and the private sector is 'productive'. That is only true from the perspective of landlords and rentier shareholders to whom everybody else is a'cost' to be cut.
The truth of it is that from the perspective of entrepreneurs, suppliers, customers, patients, passengers, staff, and even management, it is the rents extracted by your privileged constituency's property rights which are the costs which need to be cut.
Savage cuts? That liquidationist insanity is the road to Depression and debt peonage.
So let's try again.
Just yesterday, Darling announced that Labour's planned cuts in public spending will be "deeper and tougher" than Margaret Thatcher's in the 1980s.
Why don't you want me drawing attention to this?
Or was it my comment about the fact everytime the electorate boots Labour from power the nation's finances in ruins?
Equally true, equally hard for you to take, so you censor it.
You are not going to untie the economics of land ownership over-night. More immediate action is required.
It is no co-incidence that the countries whose economies have been mismanaged, like the UK and Greece, are under pressure to now cut their bloated public sectors.
Alchemy is not the solution.
P.S. If the public sector is so productive, maybe it can do us all a favour and export its services to other countries.
Are you going to post that in every Labour candidate's election HQ?
Or are they going to continue to peddle lies about Tory policies?
As for cuts, Labour have been less than honest. Labour investment v Tory cuts?
The IFS analysis tonight is completely damning, in Labour's own budget listed in the numbers there will have to be 25% cuts in government spending over the next four years
That is a complete reversal of all increases in government spending over the course of this Parliament.
Your words are dust.
The IFS analysis tonight is completely damning, in Labour's own budget listed in the numbers there will have to be 25% cuts in government spending over the next four years
The IFS haven't got a clue, because their assumptions are diametrically wrong.
Ann Pettifor is pretty much right on fiscal stimulus, although I disagree with her line on taxes, which should be switched from earned income to unearned income. Fat chance of that.
Massive fiscal stimulus is necessary - not the monetary stimulus we have now which merely supports or inflates financial asset prices and bails out the rich.
The only cuts necessary - apart from Trident and ID cards - are to take the axe to public sector managerialism and the outrageous monopoly rents extracted by the financial services industry.
Alastair Darling needs to take a reality check. The last thing that is needed is cuts in investment and expenditure. He should switch his policies away from supporting the 10% who own the country to the 90% who are indebted to them.
The Institute of Fiscal Studies, the most respected independent economics analysis organisation in the UK?
Whatever you say Chris I think you are on your own here railing against them.
If their assumption is that money is a debt instrument, then they are diametrically wrong.
It's that simple, and it makes any conclusions they draw completely worthless.
We dont owe as much as we did at the end of World War 2.
This is a GREAT RESULT for Labour.
Labour MUST drive home the simple message -cuts "will be deeper and tougher" than under Thatcher.
HURRAH