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My statement on standards in public life

By Dan Whittle

This afternoon, I am giving evidence to the Committee on Standards in Public Life inquiry into MPs expenses. This is my opening statement:

First may I start by saying that we are grateful to the Committee for undertaking this inquiry, and I speak on behalf of the some 400 members of the staff union, Unite.

This month Unite celebrated 25 years of representing staff of MPs, and of making the case for reform of the system of MPs pay and allowances. We want to see an end to the abuses of the past because we rely on faith in, and respect for, politics and politicians, to be able to do our jobs.

More than two thousand staff are employed in MPs offices on a renumerated basis. In addition hundreds of volunteers and interns also work in these offices. The recommendations you make will have a significant impact on the working lives and employment opportunities of these individuals. Whether employees or volunteers we are the first point of contact for constituents in desperate need of help. We actively manage the caseload of MPs and provide that help whatever the problem. Were it not for the goodwill these individuals have built up over the years, the standing of MPs would have fallen further during the expenses row. It follows that supporting and properly resourcing MPs offices so they can continue to provide that service is integral to rebuilding trust in MPs. As such I would urge you to consider the affects of your proposed reforms on those employed in MPs offices at all stages. 

I note from your opening statement on the 16th June that the areas for reform include: Arrangements for recruiting and employing staff which command public confidence. It is our belief that the current system lacks transparency and falls short of commanding public confidence.

We note the importance of the seven principles of public life and invite the committee to treat the following additional three principles as fundamental to any new system.

1. MPs offices should be resourced sufficiently to ensure the volume of queries from constituents is able to be addressed. 

2. The House of Commons should be a model employer, and assist MPs in the management of their offices, including proper management of employees. 

3. Staff should have formal representation on each and every committee and body that makes decisions regarding their employment terms and conditions. We believe that this should begin with the recognition of Unite for the purposes of collective bargaining. 

I now turn to some areas in which we believe the current system falls short, in terms of the three principles above, and with reference to the seven principles of public life.
 
First I want to talk about the workload of staff employed in MPs’ offices. This workload has grown in recent years and exceeds the resources available to meet it. The SSRB concluded in 2007 that “the volume of casework appears to be growing inexorably”. I’ve brought with me the contents of a caseworker’s in-tray, and I hope the height speaks for itself. A better system for deciding how MPs offices can be fairly resourced is required as a matter of urgency. 

Second I would invite you to consider the effect of under resourcing on the way in which MPs’ offices are staffed. To meet demands a large number of MPs are employing interns to work for free on an ad hoc basis. We estimate there to be approximately 450 interns. A well structured and transparently advertised internship programme for the House of Commons is needed.

Thirdly, the current system impedes rather than facilitates the enforcement of staff employment rights. The same is true of the House of Commons’ own rules. For example 164 MPs have failed to lodge the contracts of their staff with the Fees Office and some MPs are paying staff below payscales.

There needs to be appropriate arrangements for investigating all alleged breaches of the rules, and appropriate sanctions for those found to have done so.

Forthly staff standard contracts and payscales are currently set in private between a committee of MPs and the Fees Office (Department of Resources), this is neither open nor accountable[1]. These should be decided independently of MPs in negotiation with staff.

Fifth, family members who work in the offices of MPs. I can tell the committee that most of them do an exceptional job, there are very few instances of favouritism. The employment of family members should not be banned. I hope to have the opportunity to expand on the reasons for this as part of the session. The priority should be to make the employment of staff more transparent and accountable, including a toughening of the external audit of MPs who employ family members.

I have always considered staff of MPs to be employed by the House of Commons. The pretence of labelling MPs "the employer" has led to many of the present difficulties. MPs have neither the time nor the expertise to discharge the full duties of an employer.

Unite believes that unless the House of Commons is recognised as the employer, staff employment rights will remain unprotected. The recognition of the Unite union now, would enable collective bargaining rights in respect of redundancy pay, salary scales, pensions and other benefits. These are the basic employment rights which have been denied to us. As trade unionists we consider this deeply relevant to the issue of transparency and accountability. The inability of Parliament to find consensus on these issues has prevented their resolution for 25 years.

Parliament should be a leading example to employers. This committee has the opportunity to give us fair and accountable employment.

Posted on Jun 30, 2009 at 01:05pm

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Every thing I write is 100% honest and truthful.

Private health care cannot compete with the public monopoly, so wisely puts its precious resources elsewhere (including marketing).

The private sector can and will provide whatever the customer wants and is willing to pay for. If there were people willing to pay for a private A&E service then the private sector would oblige.

The state didn't invent the fire service nor the lifeboat service etc.
so lets not pretend that these services *have* to be in the public sector.

The argument for monopolies (public or private) is always the same - 'efficiency savings' - however the result of monopolies is also always the same, the removal of competition to drive efficiency results in no efficiency savings at all (and usually a drop in efficiency and a rise in costs)...

I saw 'cheese rolling' on TV the other day - Health and Safety were up in arms, complaining about the cost of injuries to the NHS - if we had private A&E companies, they would have been enthusiastically standing at the bottom of the hill waiting for custom...

The public sector see customers as an problem that costs them money, the private sector respects customers as the source of their money.

I don't want the states useless, bloated, gold plated, expensive services - I want my money back so I can make my own arrangements.

If I am taxed to finance other peoples access to services (however they are provided) so be it, but there is no need to oblige me to subscribe to them - other than as an excuse for the state to oppress me.
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 35 weeks and 5 days ago
tory (sorry about the quality ).... troll


The most truthful and honest thing you have ever written!

Let's face facts: Apart from the snobbery and cachet of going to BUPA, the private hospitals don't HAVE to do aything they don't want to do: they don't operate A & E departments, and like to concentrate on lucrative simple private work. My local BUPA hospital seems to be reduced to being a surgical health farm, a lard removing factory, offering treatments for slimming and what mind be termed "beauty" (or vanity treatments).

If your condition becomes critical (therefore time and money consuming) you will be dumped back on the NHS.

the NHS has to provide for everything and everybody: unlike private hospitals they cannot pick and choose what they will or will not treat.

You are paying for nice china tea cups, coloured lavatory paper and nice carpets in the private sector, but when you are ill and in need as long as you get proper treatment what is the point of frippery?
Alan Giles @ 35 weeks and 6 days ago
I am not willing to pay for gold plated services. In the private sector I can choose whether to shop at fortnums or lidl. Meanwhile the state extort fortnums prices and provide flea market quality services. I don't trust the public sector to operate efficiently or operate solely in the customers interest. I am not obliged to trust organisations the private sector (outside of having a free market) because I can always go elsewhere.

The distinction between public and private sector is in no way false. I will deal with a private company if (in my view) I will come out level or ahead.

I won't buy things I can't afford, I will not pay more than I think something is worth, I will not pay for something I can get cheaper else where, nor pay for something that I can make/do myself more efficiently, nor pay for things that I do not want.

I am obliged to pay for public services regardless of whether I would prefer to spend that money elsewhere, regardless of the quality/efficiency of the service offered, regardless of whether I could get the service more cheaply elsewhere, regardless of whether I could provide the service for myself, regardless of whether I even want the service.

I think that is a reasonable (but not exhaustive) distinction between public and private sector - in the private sector I have choice and free will, in the public sector I pay under duress and get what I am given.

The state forces me to use its services by stealing the money that I would have used to pay for the services elsewhere...

If the public sector offered services that were such a fantastic deal, they would not need to be in the public sector, they could compete in the private sector - then the customer would have real choice.

My children can only go to private school (instead of the useless local state one) because some money was put aside (over many years from earned, taxed income) towards a 'collage fund' unfortunately it is being spent early. And as both are incredibly bright, the private school were very keen to have them (while the state schools see bright kids as a problem to be squashed back into mediocrity). I have paid my taxes for the local LEA to get £10,0000 per child per year... why isn't that going towards my kids private fees?

Of course, many in the labour party would have private schools completely abolished.

Private health care in this country is limited because the state have already raided the publics wallets for the money that they would use for private health care.

The public sector likes monopolies because it means there is nothing to judge them against. Private schools show up state schools, private medicine shows up the NHS, private transport shows up public transport -- why improve the public offering when you can abolish the competition and then lie about how efficient/good the public offering is? (tractor production up 900% again! hurrah! The Trabant the most modern and efficient of all motor vehicles! hurrah!).

If people wanted public services they would not need to be financed by force.

Patemans book turned up the other day - its on my 'to read' pile. The plan is available from amazon - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plan-Twelve-Months-Renew-Britain/dp/0955979900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246607429&sr=8-1
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 35 weeks and 6 days ago
"I wouldn't want any of my staff being union members and if they were they'd be bottom of my list for promotion."

I think you'll find that's illegal. Thank goodness.
Jude Robinson @ 36 weeks and 1 day ago
Dear Troll, I agree that MPs should not have become surrogate social workers or allow their offices to operate like Citizen Advice Bureaux, but de facto casework is a growing part of the job. Dealing with it efficiently is part of being professional - like a professional GP. You need a staff and resources that will filter the issues into those which can be dealt with, those which are intractable and those which only an MP can progress. An MP's work should allow time for the scrutiny and development of law as well.

Your obsession with the false distinction between a wealth generating private sector and a wealth squandering public sector makes me wonder what you think "wealth" is? The existence of the public sector (education , health, welfare) is what makes it possible to generate personal and corporate private wealth. Businesses need healthy skilled workers. Even you probably need a GP sometimes, Troll. The funding of the public sector is a shared common good not a burden.

The "state" doesn't force you to accept any services, does it? When was the last time you were forced to send your child to a "state" school, or forced to visit a "state" hospital?

PS My local bookshop couldn't order in The Plan so I haven't read it yet. It appears you ahve to go through the Daily Terrorgraph website and I'm not sure I want to.


Cath Arakelian @ 36 weeks and 1 day ago
Can I disagree on one of your points, Dan? I think it's clear to everyone that MPs offices should be run by the civil service and staff should be civil servants, properly recruited, paid and managed. The work they do should be party neutral, and there should be a list of things they will do to help MPs represent their constituents, and things they won't because they are personal to the MP or are party political.

If you accept that basis, then the staff do not belong to the sitting MP or the MPs party, and have a right to continue employment when the MP is changed, even if the MP belongs to a different party. As such, the employment of family members seems untenable, and the use of 'interns' who belong to a political party also breeches the principle of political neutrality.

One of the prime causes of the public's disillussionment with politics and politicians is that Government and public services are becoming more politically biased than they used to be. You only have to look at PMQs to see the truth of that - sycophantic, planted party-political advertising on one hand, and yah-boo-sucks political posturing on the other. No real questions to the PM ever get answered, and it is, quite frankly, a waste of time as far as responsible government goes. Making MPs offices truly party-neutral will be a start to making government work for the people again.
Jim Bob @ 36 weeks and 1 day ago
I very much disagree with your three points.

Point 1 is the most obviously objectionable - imagine - an MP automaticallty getting two dozen new staff at their electorates expense, because their electorate are sending in thousands of complaints about the number of staff they employ...

If extra staff will enable the *public will* to be more effectively implemented, the I will listen - but more, expensive, staff just to reply to misdirected letters is pure stupidity.

Give MPs a formal job description, they we (the electorate) can know what it is worth writing to them about.

Point 2 - Rubbish, the public sector has an absolute duty and responsibility to minimise its demands on the wealth generating private sector. The public sector should (at the very best) operate that the average quality of the private sector. As a taxpayer I am *NOT* willing to pay any more than absolutely necessary for the services I am forced to accept from the state.

Point 3 - as long as my earlier concerns are addressed you can yak all you like to anyone you like.

p.s. I have no idea whether any of my comments will appear or not - so respond at your own risk.
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 36 weeks and 1 day ago
Don't work in the private sector then. You have a choice. If I'm paying you (and I am) then I want to know what you cost me
Old Holborn @ 36 weeks and 2 days ago
I would like to see the price tag to the public on EVERYTHING. From a letter from your MP to a sign on a new bridge. From the swab in an operating theatre to the cost of an opera. EVERYTHING. After all, I'm paying for it.
Old Holborn @ 36 weeks and 2 days ago
I hope they do, Guy. When I was a civil servant and FDA member, I'd have supported totally transparent pay for civil servants. It'd have settle the argument once and for all when I was being paid less than my colleagues, but my employer refused to accept my point.

But why not have complete openness in the private sector too? I reckon that's where by far the worst cases of unequal and unfair pay, poverty pay and excessive pay are. At the moment, they're hidden.
Carl Gardner @ 36 weeks and 2 days ago
The "workplace union"?

I've never worked with anyone who was a union member and I'd sooner jump from a tall building than join a union. I wouldn't want any of my staff being union members and if they were they'd be bottom of my list for promotion.

When you say the "workplace union", at least be clear that you mean blue collar and public sector "workplaces"
Guy M @ 36 weeks and 2 days ago
Well done, Dan. It is way past time that Unite was recognised as the workplace union and greater consideration given to the terms and conditions of parliamentary staff. Until now, they seem to have been treated a bit like MPs' chattels by the Fees Office with changes to the salary structures/holidays etc just landed on them.
Taking the employment role from MPs might also prevent the mega annoying habit of the press lumping the salaries of staff in with MPs' expenses. It's not as if it's pocket money dished out by a feudal squire......
Jude Robinson @ 36 weeks and 2 days ago
As Mps "work for the public" and have to have all salaries and expenses made public, can we extend this to all who "work for the public"?

I'd like to see ALL NHS staff salary, expense and pension details published.

I take it in the spirit of openness you'll be supporting this within UNITE?
Guy M @ 36 weeks and 2 days ago