By Ben Furber / @BenFurber
Every week one columnist or another is hypothesising about what the general election will be about. So when, in November, Rachel Sylvester wrote that the "election will be won at the school gate" and citeed the Biscuitgate affair on Mumsnet, I paid the column little attention. Why would I? I’m a young single male with no plans for or interest in having dependents any time soon.
But now, once again, Mumsnet is on my radar. On Friday, with exclamation marks and many profanities, I was emailed a link to a Mumsnet forum thread – 35 pages then (and 38 pages now) of its readers’ very own David Cameron billboards. Clearly not all of the 140,000 plus attempts have been generated by staunch political activists.
Luckily for me I was in the same room as a young mother, so I asked her: "what’s with Mumsnet?" She told me. When you have a question, it’s where you go. When you’re concerned about something, it’s where you go. When you need support, it’s where you go.
This was when it clicked for me: Mumsnet isn’t just a website, it is a community – just like the coffee mornings that go on all over the country on a daily basis in community centres and local churches, but virtual and available twenty-four hours a day. It's Mums and Dads meeting, where people talk and provide each other with support.
Many candidates are prepared to sell their right arms to talk to these community groups, explaining their party’s family and child policies. No wonder the Parties centrally are doing the same with Mumsnet.
The perceived wisdom is based on a fine old communications model: senior party officers flood the lobby with targeted policies and spin, hoping the national media will write about it and those that glance at a paper the next day read the headline. At the same time, the well connected candidates talk to those local community groups that they can blag their way into. But as Mumsnet (as well as other projects such as HorsesMouth) show, there is a new way of connecting, a better way of connecting.
Local campaigning is working for Labour this year – that return to the fundamentals of what it is to ask someone for their support. In many places this is being done effortlessly; the street endorser and direct mail models are working wonders. But at the other end we have a hostile national and mainstream media which continues to try to convince the public that the election has already happened and Cameron has won with a landslide.
What Number 10 seem to have understood with Mumsnet is that instead of relying on journalists with their clear editorial focus, specific groups can be talked to direct. So politicians have started talking straight to engaged groups at a national level – just as the already do in community centres, they are now doing it online.
But more is needed, because this could be just the tip of the iceberg: the Parties could start talking about the benefits of community campaigning versus local campaigning, not because it's fundamentally difficult – it isn't – but because it increases the scope and provides the additional focus of new and social media combined.
So we all know about Mumsnet now, great. But there are others, too, and time needs to be put into finding those groups and communicating with their users.
It is scary for a lot of people, accepting and understanding that certain websites have the potential to engage – just as we do on the doorstep. But everyone needs to do it now. Mumsnet provides all the data needed: there are interested groups online with diverse interests that are becoming communities. With over 350 Cameron billboards submitted on Mumsnet, these communities are clearly engaged and each one, each Mum and each Dad, is a constituent.
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http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/education/901058-Education-and-social-mobility?pg=1
had abour 500 responses on it when I last looked. Definately a hot topic!
Just another group dave. I think netmums might have been around a bit longer and is no where near as active.
Women perhaps do things a little differently, there is often a need to chat to establish trust before you can do too much, but there always a wide variety of conversations going on within Mumsnet. They are quite conscious that they have a role to play in deciding this election, and there are certainly quite a mnumber of people trying to work out ways forward.
The general feeling that i get is that many are deeply suspicious of Cameron, but they don't much like quite a few aspects of what they invariably describe as Nu labour.
One good thing about these forums is that people talk about their own experiences. They talk about the fact that some of them are struggling financially or worried about job security, and that means that other people become much more aware of the real impact of different policies on real people.
There is the potential for something new to emerge. There was an interesting bit about Sure start, and the way that their area was developing small co-operative ventures.
I have been discovering pockets of older women in mumsnet. I think this is good.
I would love to see more networking with other womens groups too.
Mike is probably quite right about mumsnet mums not being too interested in the Chilcott inquiry. That is probably because it is largly about men and the media.
The kind of politics that can emerge from something like mumsnet, is quite different, but I think it can be good.
Frank Field's blog is rather good......
I think it sounds a great site- and I will recommend to others
here in the East Midlands..
All best, Jo.
Here is an interesting census http://www.mumsnet.com/info/census-2009 which clarifies some of the demographics. According to that I am in the 1% oldest members of mumsnet which has depressed me for the day!
Hope it's all going well.
I'll try and have a good read of your article later- thankyou.
Am probably off now for the rest of the day.
Jo.
You probably thought I had disappeared. I had two conferences to go to yesterday and had to do a load of preparation for them before hand. Also trying to catch up on a load of website work for my MP.
not enough hours in the day at present!
I'm quite new to blogging; even using a PC!
But I've been amazed how sites like facebook have endless possibilities for networking and sharing interests and issues.
The big problem is, it's very time consuming, and almost sucks one in!
Also- there is a worry about confidentiality of personal information on FB, and how much they might benefit from user's information/photos etc?
But community blogging sites seem a good idea- apart from the fact as it's so public, it's open to abuse.
My earlier reference to We Love the NHS on facebook is that up to about 20 000 people have joined voluntarily, following Dan Hannan's attack on the NHS last summer.
There was an outpouring of personal testimonials, often very moving, and feedback from experiences. It can be very powerful.
I'm completely in favour of groups that support parents; sharing experiences can be theraputic.Also- light heated banter and a friendly atmosphere helps the flow of conversation.
It might be better in person though- although parents do have limited time- and this medium is very convenient and easy to access.
Anyway, good to hear from you Diana.
Sorry I only have brief spells on here- school run early am!
Good night, Jo.
People use the site for different reasons. There are a lot of people just chatting and haveing a bit of fun, but there are also some serious discussions. There are certainly quite a number of people with a strong interest in both climate change and health.
Women with young children always network, and there is often real potential for doing something quite radical and quite different.
My mother's generation was doing it with WI. I set up a LETS scheme and was looking at ways to build mother's co-operatives, this lot now have the advantage of the web. The possibilities are endless.
Alex is quite right that we need to be looking at a whole range of other places where it is possible to be in conversation with people.
I find my best discussions actually occur at the Jam stall I run at farmer's markets. I get streams of people who come to do something totally unthreatening like buying a pot of jam or marmalade, and stay to chat about all manner of things.
there is a real need for forums within communities where good conversations can take place.
I have tried setting up one www.stafforddirect.ning.com the main problem is that people don't know about it. What might really help is a site that acts as an umbrella for a whole range of hyperlocal sites like that.
you could have a standardised template - but could do a postcode search to find your nearest hyperlocals?
If there were loads like this it would be much easier to make it "news".
As a former Swedish Social Democrat voter, she pretty much drew the opinion that it's the votes you are after of these communities not the concerns of mums or communities that you should be interested in.
Well done everyone....
I'm a mum who has used mumsnet. Why would this article have lost your wife's vote?
Steph
It must be good if GB and DC are both on there!
You've certainly lost my wife's vote.
(not that you had it anyway)
Mumsnet--
I take it they won't own a Peacock's store card then?
They might be a "nu-s-ance" as we'd have to read all about their credit union shares!ha!ha!
cheers
Jo.
Buy One Get One Free
Take care,
Dave
(What is BOGOF- are you being literal?!)
LOL!
Jo- see- you've got me going now...
And a "panel" of Mums set up to question David Willetts about family policies?(I think the BBC Politics Show 2 weeks ago.)
That must be what both parties mean when they say they want to appeal to the "middle class" vote...
However, with regard to We Love the NHS- that is a great cross section, from what I've seen.Up to 20, 000 testimonies from the public about their experiences of the NHS.
Jo.
This is a major group of voters- middle aged and younger parents who are very concerned about issues like education and welfare.
I definitely agree this is the way to go.Alex has the right idea too!
Thankyou- great article.
Maybe we could all make some suggestions for LL to be more widely
publizised?
Eg- I love the NHS on facebook?!
Thankyou.
A challenge of course is how engagement with these communities happens. I think that if a new member went on and started saying how Gordon was the best choice for everyone you would get short shrift.