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We've got much more to do - discrimination and prejudice are still prevalent in the playground

Lonely ChildBy Ed Balls MP

All of us can be proud today. Whether we're on the London Pride march, a Labour Party member or both, we can all be proud of what our campaigning has achieved.

From an equal age of consent to civil partnerships and the right to adopt children, from scrapping the homophobic Section 28 to banning discrimination in the workplace and in the provision of goods and services, the list of advances for the LGBT community in the last twelve years goes on.

Much of this was done in the face of fierce opposition - not just in the House of Commons, but in the European Parliament too - and so we should never be complacent about what's been achieved.

But for all this progress I'm clear that there is still more to do to create the equal and tolerant society we all want to see. As long as discrimination, intolerance and prejudice remains there is still a cause to fight for.

Sadly, that discrimination and prejudice all too often rears its ugly head in the playground, in the classroom and on the school bus. Bullying of any kind is wrong: every child has a right to learn in a safe and secure environment, free from bullying. It blights the lives of children and as Schools Secretary for the last two years I've been working with schools, anti-bullying organisations and teaching unions to step up our drive to stamp it out.

As I said at our Party Conference last year, we will now ensure all incidents of bullying are properly recorded in every school. Over the last couple of years we have expanded peer mentoring schemes and produced new guidance for schools on how to tackle cyberbullying, bullying of children with a disability or special educational needs and bullying on the grounds of race, religion or culture.

In partnership with Stonewall and Educational Action Challenging Homophobia (EACH) we have also produced the first-ever guidance on tackling homophobic bullying. And we will shortly be publishing guidance on sexist, sexual and transphobic bullying too.

I'm clear that homophobic insults should be viewed as seriously as racism. Even casual use of homophobic language in schools - such as the worryingly prevalent but unacceptable use of the word "gay" as a derogatory term - can create an atmosphere that isolates young people and can be the forerunner for more serious forms of bullying.

Homophobic bullying creates an ugly climate of intimidation and can make it harder for young people to come out. And whether it's directed at lesbian, gay, bisexual, or heterosexual young people, our guidance makes clear that such bullying should be challenged wherever it takes place.

In the last few months we’ve written again to all schools to remind them about the guidance, which should be used to help all schools fulfil their duty to prevent bullying on the grounds of either a pupil's or their parent's sexual orientation. Our independent inspectors Ofsted are now required to ensure that they check what systems schools have in place to deal with all forms of bullying, including homophobic bullying.

The guidance makes clear that Section 28 was repealed in 2003 and is no longer law, and that there are no legal barriers to teachers discussing issues around sexual orientation in the classroom. And it provides advice on a number of topics including: challenging the use of the word “gay” as a derogatory term; working with pupils who bully and providing support to those who are being bullied; how teachers should respond if a pupil comes out; and preventing homophobic abuse within schools by ensuring proper reporting systems are in place and creating a climate where lesbian, gay and bisexual adults and students feel safe.

Growing up can be challenging enough for young people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. Being bullied and discriminated against at school as well can make life miserable and sometimes fearful too. I want all schools to step up their efforts to stamp it out, because it's only by tackling such prejudice in schools and in the playground that we will create a truly tolerant society.

And it's only through progressive politics and by the LGBT community continuing to make themselves heard – as they are doing, proud and loud, on the streets of London today - that we can build on the advances of the last 12 years and make homophobia in every part of society a thing of the past.

Ed Balls is Labour MP for Normanton and Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families.

Posted on Jul 04, 2009 at 04:10pm


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Stamp out homophobic bullying? So you think you will stop young hetrosexual men using homosexual jibes against their peers? You have found this in every society, every single one! It's a way of hetrosexual males to express their hetrosexuality! You will never change this, and this whole article above seems like mind control of the highest degree. If kids stop saying it will they stop thinking it. Just face it that to hetro's, homosexuality isn't wrong, it's something we just don't hold in particularly high esteem - the same way we view perhaps someone who is a trainspotter, computer geek, BNP supporter or something! These insults in the playground aren't hate speech - they are leg pulling, and where you think you have right to "intervene" is beyond me!

Bullying. I was bullied, and I also dished a fair bit out too. it was great training for life, as you need to learn to stand up for yourself. In the workplace there is no teacher ready to deal out justice, but I am sure if you had your way you'd have a quango in every workplace monitoring correct-think and correct-speak.

Face it, Ed, the life is a big cruel place. I had the mickey taken chronically because I was overweight and a bit odd. It upset me, but I coped and it gave me character. Even the baddies, or should I say "bullies" who dole out this "hate speech" may be victims of bullying themselves, perhaps for being poor, or fat, or thin, or ginger (why don't you mention this, ever. Ginger kids were picked on more than ANYONE at school - the reason you don't mention this is everyone will see what a pathetic waste of time regulating children's attitudes and speach would be, as we all know kids will always make fun of kids different from the norm)

In summary, we are all different, we all get picked on for something.
Get on with some work and focus on something other than discrimination, something many of us think is an admirable conquest for fairness, but is increasingly the ONLY policy on this website (have a look at the top ten posts at any given time) and the ONLY policy of the Labour Party.

Labour - if we can't ban it, regulate it, or legislate it, we'll tax it!
Public Scrutiny @ 55 weeks and 5 days ago
Mr Balls, what do you think of the suggested dangers involved in promoting sexuality to children - Which Gay Teens Attempt Suicide?

Have you considered that Stonewall and the Government may be making children's lives worse than they need be and you might actually be encouraging more youngsters to take their own lives through the pressure of identifying with a certain sexuality at a stage in their lives when they are not equipped to cope with these issues?

Are you sure you know what you're doing? Do you get any information other than from Stonewall? I would like to know your other sources as this is so very serious.
Stewart Cowan @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
God, from the title I thought it was satire.
Easton Howitzer @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Calling someone or something gay in the schoolyard context is almost always done in a negative way when used by school children simply because they have no education about it. Schools are in limbo on this issue. After all with most faith schools refusing to even talk about condoms how can we expect them to take on this issue!
We may be considered the Loony left for talking about this but then again the conservatives are happy to leave gay people out in the cold and have a long history of doing so. We must educate our children completely. we cannot allow taboo and blushes to deter a good education.

Then again we could always go with the idiotic conservative approach of bullying being character building.
James Clarke @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I don't mean this as a comment, just a general observation in that, wouldn't your picture for "Labourlistpride" look better like This?

Tell me to mind my own business if you like. It was just a thought.
Dazed And Confused . @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Guys, don't expect any sort of meaningful response from Balls. I emailed him this week about repeating Brown's 'investment' lies. There came no answer...

Oh, and one other thing... "progressive politics" has brought this country to the point of bankruptcy. Time to get rid of Blinky and his friends.
Paul Pinfield @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I have no objection to people writing an article on any subject under the sun, but what does slightly irritate me is that so many ministers and former ministers, and hope-to-be-a-minister soon types are jumping on the bandwaggon. What next - Denis Healey on Gay Life For The Over 90s?

Take Mr Balls. if things had gone the way him and his friend Gordon had wanted Balls would now be Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Perhaps Mr Balls might like to consider that many kids probably truant from school BECAUSE of bullying - including homophobia. That doesn't seem to play too much of a role, when we have his and other education spokespeople mithering on about truant kids and "feckless" parents.

Would he have been writing an article on personal abuse (including homophobia) in the City or Bank of England? I very much doubt it
Alan Giles @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Your last point is fascinating. we have already been made aware of the way women get treated in the City after some landmark cases based on sexism, what is the case on Homophobia in the City?

Alan you raise a very serious issue here.

When I was working on a contract for KPMG I do not recall meeting anyone gay, but I do remember meeting a gay chap (who I went with to London Pride for the first time with all the staff) with a smaller investment company.

Well done
Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Can I take issue with your assumption that the word 'gay' is used in the playground as a derogatory term?

It may well be in a minority of cases that it is used in a derogatory way, but for the most part it is used in a good humoured way, there is nothing malicious about it. I was speaking to a gent the other day who has recently left education and he told me that something was 'sick'. I thought he didn't like what we were talking about, but he meant that it was good. Later he refered to something else as 'gay', he meant it was not to his liking. I only know this because I asked him. Could I respectfully suggest that before you label every school child as a bully or a bigot, you actually spend some time talking to these young people and learn a bit about how they communicate?

On the bullying issue, in the real world there are bullies, lots of them. If you don't equip a child or young person with a method of dealing with it they are going to have a very unhappy life when they leave school, and unfortunately the only way a child or young person learns how to deal with bullies is to actually experience bullying. I'm not suggesting you allow a child to be beaten to a pulp to teach them about bullying, but my first year in secondary education was spent drying my hair after spells of being dangled over toilets and various scuffles with pupils from all years. It wasn't pleasant but even at that age I knew that running to a teacher and crying about wasn't going to resolve the problem. I learned how to deal with it and because of that I can now deal with bullies in my adult life quite effectively.

Waste time and money trying to eliminate this 'prejudice' within schools, but what you end up with is a society of people in a generation or two who will be no more equipped to deal with the real world than someone who has been locked in a tower all of their life. Use of the word 'gay' does not automatically mean someone is homophobic and if you question a cross section of young people they have far less problem with homosexuality than many adults. It seems to me that you are creating problems.

Taking issue with children using the word gay in another context is the equivelant of me complaining because I can't wear the rainbow jumper I got for Christmas as people assume I am homosexual when I wear it.
Bill Dewison @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Yes Bill, the term "gay" as an expletive is not necessarily an attack on gays. I am not sure how it happened it became a habit for many. I did it myself once in the presence of someone who was gay and I was very embarresed though i meant no offence, I apologised anyway and now try and avoid any further faux pas.

Bullies. Yes I remember many at my old school they made our lives a living misery. In the end I failed because I ended up going into conflict with them one at a time. But at that age I did not have the social skills set I have now I am older. This does not detract from the fact that bullies are cowards and thier actions are bloody aweful. I have never and will never intimidate people because I do not agree with them or trhat thet are different.


It's a matter of conduct. This does not mean I respect everybody or that I am perfect, I'm not I just don't like groups mentally and physically oppressing others.
Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Oh, and what would you say about a kid who refered to someone as 'jewish', and meant they were tight with money? Would you say that didn't necessarily imply anti-semitism, and that they were probably just using it in a good-humoured way with nothing malicious about it? Even if they were, do you not think it had the potential to be very offensive to Jewish children?
Thomas Williams @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
During my time at school I was refered to as lanky, big nosed and various other insults based on my physical appearance. I am also blonde haired and blue eyed which led to references about my possible association with Nazi Germany, not to mention the field day they had relentlessly teasing me about my dress sense (although looking back I wore some unusual clothes and probably did appear very odd).

Should the term 'Paddy', 'Taffy' and 'Jock' be disallowed incase they offend? Or have they already been disallowed and I have just managed to offend a portion of the LL?
Bill Dewison @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Disallowed? You parse too much this one, Bill. Social opprobrium is one thing, banning another. You might meet people who disavow certain phrases because they find them offensive. But since these terms often cover minorities with limited political power, the chances of being banned from ever expressing them are remote.

What is clear to me on all this 'political correctness gone mad' strands is that their is an element of self censorship and guilt from the people who make the loudest complaints. They feel their freedom of expression has been impinged, when in reality all that's happened is that other people are also deploying their own freedom of expression.

All I can say is that there is no right to freedom of expression free from criticism. In fact, I'd go further. Freedom of expression pretty much guarantees rebuke and criticism, and those who can't accept that don't really understand the concept at all.
anti tory troll @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I think there's a difference between epithets and insults here.

Epithets certainly can be offensive - 'nigger' and 'wog', for example - but aren't always. Often it depends on their history and associations with persecution. There are various epithets for gay people, which vary in offensiveness, and which can certainly be used light-heartedly - 'fag', 'poof', 'queer', etc.

But insults are different. Using 'gay' as an insult - not necessarily to someone who is gay - says, essentially, that being gay is a negative thing. There's less room for light-heartedness there. I never knew of anyone at school with me using 'jock' as an *insult*, though they might refer to someone who was Scottish as Jock. I knew of plenty who used 'gay' as an insult though.
Thomas Williams @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Okay, I can see where you are coming from. What happens if children or young people begin to use the word gay in a similar way to how it has been used in the past though, as in given to social pleasures or a gay room, as in bright and colourful?

I've been looking up the meanings of the word gay and came across 'ghey' which seems to back up your argument that it is used as an insult. Gamers adapted the word to ghey to get around word filters so they could insult each other with the word, so in that context it is widely used as an insult and makes me wronger than a wrong person who is in fact wrong.
Bill Dewison @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
You cannot legislate against offence.

It is up to me what offends me and it takes my permission to be offended. There is no legal right not to be offended. Therefore I am free to call people whatever I choose. It is up to them whether they choose to be offended (and yes, it is a choice).

I find Noel Edmonds deeply offensive for example. Let's ban him.
Old Holborn @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Er... perhaps you mean you should not legislate against offence, but like most societies the British have tried to legislate against offensive behaviour, blasphemy, obscenity and all things that could deprave 'public morals'.

I don't like it anymore than you do, but I find it odd that this libertarian argument about 'offence' is wheeled out when it comes to homophobic or racist statements, statements that have often led to direct violence (incitement to hatred, lynchings etc) and yet forgotten when it comes to defending the shibboleths of right wing thought.
anti tory troll @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I don't know, I have never heard a child use the term "Jewish" within the last twenty years. I guess it depends on the context and intent.
Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Indeed, thankfully it's died out (though it is still listed in the OED in that pejorative sense). But I find it a useful one to think about. My personal feeling is that most people would find it very offensive, and quite shocking - far more so than they do 'gay' at the moment.
Thomas Williams @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Using the word 'gay' to refer to something they dislike at least indicates some tendency towards homophobia. I'd be interested to see how someone who frequently used it did on an implicit association test. (See https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/)

But it's not entirely about why they're using it - it might, I suppose, be entirely good-natured. But if a gay teenager is struggling with coming to terms with their sexuality, and their friends keep referring to things as 'gay' when they mean they're crap, let alone using 'gay' as a standalone insult, which in my experience is more prevalent than you think, that's going to make it all the harder.
Thomas Williams @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I don't mean to be naive here, but shouldn't the issue be about why the child or young person is struggling to come to terms with being homosexual in the first instance? Not what effect a bit of name calling would have on them, whether or not it is directed at them.

Look at the name calling and insults that are used here on the LL and many other blogs around the internet. Walk into any pub and strike up a conversation with people you've never met and chances are they will say something over a given period that you will find offensive. What do you do about it? Should I complain to Alex if Guy continues to call me a thief? Should I complain to the landlord of the public house because one of the customers cracks a joke about those of Germanic descent?

If young people don't gain a thicker skin in school, where exactly are they going to learn these vital life skills? And if they don't learn them, what happens when they get out into the big wide world and meet someone who is genuinely homophobic?
Bill Dewison @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I'd love it if children didn't have to come to terms with their sexuality, if everyone was open enough, and unprejudiced enough, about sexuality that people wouldn't worry about it. I'm not sure that will ever happen - being in a minority, and an invisible minority at that, about something so intimate will probably always make gay teenagers feel (more) awkward - but we're certainly not there now, and so small things like this can make a difference.
Thomas Williams @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
The same argument could be used if someone happened to have bad acne though, a small difference would be to stop children calling other children spotty or pizza face, but realistically it isn't going to happen. I knew of someone as I was growing up who attempted suicide because of an acne problem. I doubt it was just name calling that led to that, although I could be wrong - in which case it kind of reinforces your point on the use of the word gay.

I think we will reach a point where homosexuality isn't percieved to be a major issue, we've come a long way since the days where it was against the law to be homosexual here in the UK. Being homosexual destroyed Alan Turing's career and arguably led to him taking his own life, and no doubt there are still instances of someone's sexuality destroying their career or leading them to commiting suicide. But will curbing playground insults or use of language between children stop that happening?
Bill Dewison @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
All bullying is ugly in school Ed, why do I suspect you have not addressed it in any meaningful manner?

Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
I would like to congratulate LL on having 14 of the last 15 threads on gay issues.

If anyone needed to see the level of irrelevance socialism has to the big issues facing the UK they need do little more than look at LL for a few minutes.
Guy M @ 56 weeks ago
Then don't read it, Guy. The reason why there is this thematic focus was explained at the outset - it doesn't indicate that there are no other issues to discuss. But why should you care - its obvious you have anger problems and come here to try and deal with them. I don;t think its working, Guy. I don't think people take you very seriously.
Mike Homfray @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Of course he has anger problems. Most of the country has got bloody anger problems. We expect to be a lot calmer after next June.
Sam Francisco @ 55 weeks and 5 days ago
Children will be beastly to other children, it's why they're children.

The biggest governmental bully Mr Balls will no doubt be sending the education police to every school, not to ask why so many can't read or write the word "gay" but why they are using it.

Start going overboard on the "no legal barriers to teachers discussing issues around sexual orientation in the classroom" and I'll pull my kids from the class. Certainly my kids grammar school don't get involved in this debate and rightly so.
Guy M @ 56 weeks ago
I have six children at school. They are studying for the International Baccalaureate instead of GCSE/A Levels because they are now worthless under New Labour. They do not attend the local comp because it is too dangerous and the results are too low. So they sit for an hour on the train every morning to go to a school that CAN teach them.

Cheers Ed

PS by the way, you might want to talk to Lynne Featherstone MP about a little Email I have

http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/2009/01/old-holborn-please-help.htm
Old Holborn @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Being beastly is not part of childhood. I am in South Korea and the children here do not act as bullies as they have been taught respect, "Kibun", they first have to respect the oldest person whoever that may be. Bullying is a fraction here of what it is in Blighty. The majority of the children here respect harmony of the spirit, and they have as liberal a capitalist society as we do.

Parents are held in great respect and so are teachers by children because they are taught to do so. Family is the most important aspect of South korean life.


So as you can see Guy, children do not have to be beastly.
Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
"Parents are held in great respect and so are teachers by children because they are taught to do so. Family is the most important aspect of South korean life."

Not so in the UK under New Labour though.....
Old Holborn @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Not so in the UK in my living memory Old Holborn.

Kids were not respectful when I was at school twenty years ago.
Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
"Not so in the UK in my living memory Old Holborn."

Sorry, you're wrong. I know a number of now-retired teachers who taught at non-public schools between the 1950's and 1990's. There was a shift in attitudes during that period. In the 1950's British children from all backgrounds, in general, were polite, respectful well-behaved and excelled at the three R's. Parents overwhelmingly supported the teacher against their own children when they were punished or rebuked.

By the 1980's it was a fight to get kids to shut up or even turn up, and if you spoke too harshly there would be repercussions from indignant parents who, like their kids, believed "We don't need no education".
Phil Mill @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Exactly Phil, I said MY living memory. Not everybodies living memory.
Please read what I write before taking my comments out of context.

I started school in the 1980's....
Ralph Baldwin @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Children were not *that* respectful when I was at school 40 years ago. Indeed I remember at the time my Uncle Harry musing (as he watch wrestling on ITV) that there was not enough use of the belt compared to when he was young.
Paul Halsall @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Is Mandelson on a mission here. Or do Labour think they've undoubtedly got the apex of any moral high ground, in regards to this particular subject matter?
All forms of playground bullying are wrong, but they'll always occur as children search for a position in their classroom hierarchy. Yet to turn this into a politically correct thesis, based on Socialist doctrine, is something that only a New Labour Minister would gladly subscribe.
Dazed And Confused . @ 56 weeks ago
Lord Mandelson is currently in Marrakesh again I believe. Whatever attracts him to the place, I have no idea.
Old Holborn @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
Jumping on the bandwagon by any chance? Has an e-mail gone round Labour HQ?
Man in the Street @ 56 weeks ago
I think Richard Lane - guest editor - has just worked hard to get the most relevant and interesting posts from people who are important in the debate.
Alex Smith @ 56 weeks ago
And avoiding challenging comments.
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 56 weeks ago
I think Richard Lane (and I have never met him) has done very well. In fact, I recall no occasion on which such a broad swathe of left and liberal political leaders have expressed their support of LGBT rights.

I have posted what I thought were challenging comments, or at least they were meant to be, but Richard's achievement here should not be gainsaid.

When I was PIC (Person in Charge) of the stage/Jubilee gardens in 1987 I could only get through to Edwina Curry. She was very nice, but not appear on the stage. Labour did send a message, and Chris Smith came through, but, thinking back to then, I have read LabourList this weekend with a kind of wonderment.

Some people here have criticised Peter Mandelson. I have to say he is not my favourite politician as per his policies [He is of course, for those who enjoy the game, the sheer master to watch - Dr. Who ought to recruit him.] But it is a tribute to the British political class that, led by Liberals (let's be fair here), then Labour, and now Cameron, that it has given up gay-baiting.

Paul Halsall @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
But you don't know what wasn't published... While I accept that the socialist philosophy doesn't require people to have evidence or facts themselves (they are happy to just repeat what they are told), they really shouldn't should boast about.
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 55 weeks and 6 days ago
This is hilarious coming from one of Labour's biggest bullies. How's Damian getting on?
Charlie Farley @ 56 weeks ago
As Nick wrote, far too often gay is a four letter word on our playgrounds, in workplaces and parks. If this is what you mean then I agree with you...

I think we have to be careful about putting people into boxes, especially putting young people at school into boxes with respect to sexuality. A minor may identify themselves one way now, another later, it doesn't only go one way. It is possible that future generations will be far more polysexual. I think sexuality is much broader than identity.
Forge Lindin @ 56 weeks ago