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It's Conservatism alright, but is it really progressive?

Progressives

By Liam Byrne
 
David Cameron is at Demos today to launch their new project on progressive conservatism. Is this something that should be taken seriously?
 
You can, it is said, often see some-one's true character when they are under pressure. Challenged by recent months, Mr Cameron is rolling back the years. Not simply in his front-bench appointments, but in the very essence of his politics. Gone is 'progressive conservatism'. The nasty party is on the road to return.
 
Mr Cameron's appeal to his party and indeed the electorate was the promise of 'decontamination' and an end to the 'nasty party'. Out went right-wing postures. In came riding with huskies.
 
But amidst a blizzard of photo-opportunities came no serious attempt to take on the unreformed instincts or nostrums of his party. For its part, Mr Cameron's party stopped acting up. It became like a subdued animal. Quiet in the hope of a reward.
 
Until now. In the face of the market's global crisis has come the resurfacing of an ideology Mr Cameron has spent two years trying to bury. It is unclear why he himself chose to dig up this past, but in three big changes Mr Cameron has ditched any pretence to be 'heir to Blair' or cousin to Obama. He has left the centre-ground, set course for isolation, and sought a reunion with the doctrine of self-help.
 
What's the evidence? Let us turn to exhibit (a), Mr Cameron's do-nothing plan for the downturn.
 
In a seismic shift, Mr Cameron has this month decided to come off Labour's spending plans, and cut £5 billion from this year's budget. At his press conference last week, Mr Cameron tried to duck the big question of whether his cuts plan would actually lower the national debt this year. Answer? Er, no, it would not. It would leave it the same. Mr Cameron would leave national debt where it is, cut public investment by £5 billion and transfer the money to some savers an approach that would not even reach 60% of pensioners, the very group the policy was supposed to help.
 
So, while Labour is offering tax cuts for the vast majority of the British public VAT cuts for all consumers, basic rate tax-cuts for 22 million basic rate tax-payers and extra help for those with children and pensioners, the Conservatives oppose these measures in favour of offering tax cuts to merely a few.
 
Sound familiar? It is a decision to leave the majority the centre-ground and retreat to an appeal to the core vote.
 
Second, the Conservative's idiosyncratic decision to reject any notion of using extra public investment to give the economy a shot in the arm leaves them alone in the world and dangerously exposed to irrelevance.
 
This is really important. For a trading nation like ours, global coordination of fiscal action public investment alongside cuts to interest rates, is absolutely critical to a faster recovery. But how on earth would we persuade other nations to put investment into the economies around the world if we actively opposed such steps at home in a complete rejection of the advice of almost every major economist?
 
Our arguments for global action would hit a brick-wall. Our international leadership would end. And our country would be left to face this international storm alone, our influence on the world stage tragically weakened. Sound familiar?
 
Third, think about the future. Last week, Labour published a major white paper on how we create the jobs of the future, and invest in helping families turn aspiration into success, from early years to professional career development. Aspiration has always united the centre and centre-left voters in Britain. Our ambition is a new revolution in social mobility. It is a plan backed by £10.5 billion of new investment in children, families, skills and communities.
 
The Conservatives' reaction? To label our white paper class war. Their idea is to cut £200 million from Sure Start, £4.5 billion from building schools for the future, to reject plans to give half of kids the chance to go to university and to slice work training opportunities for a million people a year. This is backed by a promise to cut Labour's investment plans for the two years ahead. In other words, to cut back on our future potential and leave people to face the changes and challenges of the decades ahead backed by less help not more. Sound familiar?
 
Once, Mr Cameron presented his brand of philosophy as 'rolling forward society'. It was a different intellectual story of Conservatism to Mrs Thatcher (more Edmund Burke than Milton Friedman) but it had the same ending. Mrs Thathcer argued government action crowded out the market. Answer? Cut back the state. Mr Cameron argued that government action 'crowded out' civic society. Answer? Cut back the state.
 
Today, I am not really surprised to learn that Mr Cameron's plans draw no distinction between cuts to government and cuts to civic society. The Conservatives' new spending plans would slice a neat 1% off the Cabinet Office budget for supporting the third sector, cutting funds to over 2,000 small local chairities plus a huge 400,000 volunteering opportunities with it. Some rolling forward!
 
Many in the radical centre of British politics were prepared to give Mr Cameron a hearing as he started his task of fashioning 'progressive Conservatism'. Today, we see it as a parody. A show-boat. It's not progressive conservatism, just progressively more confused for the simple reason that it lacks any anchor in values. With no intelligent account of the market - and therefore nothing to say about the future of government.

It might be Conservative. But it's certainly not progressive.

Posted on Jan 22, 2009 at 03:10pm

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WE intend to ahve some posts on "red tories" in the next few days. By all means send one in if you like...
Derek Draper @ 53 weeks and 4 days ago
All this partisanship is dangerous, especially considering the threat posed by Phillip Blond's incisive "Red Tory" progressive conservatism argument (see Prospect cover story). His analysis is overwhelmingly convincing, and his remedy could well appeal across party lines. If Cameron adopts some of his policies, it will be an ideological landgrab that Labour cannot afford.

It's essential that we argue for the role of the state in business, as the ultimate guarantor against exploitation by corporate concerns. Otherwise Blond's compelling localism will steal the disenfranchised from Labour's electorate, and will unwittingly doom them to be victims of another cycle of free-market failure.

Any appetite for this kind of work to be done here on Labour List?
William Brett @ 53 weeks and 4 days ago
Many countries in Europe have had ID cards for years - can't see what all the fuss is about.
Mike Homfray @ 54 weeks and 1 day ago
I think one of his SPADs got carried away at the keyboard...
Paul 'hit or miss as to whether my comments will make it through' Pinfield @ 54 weeks and 3 days ago
You didn't notice Gordon Brown announcing a cabinet pay freeze a few months ago then?

Didn't think so...
Tom Miller @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
You didn't notice Gordon Brown announcing a cabinet pay freeze a few months ago then?

Didn't think so...
Tom Miller @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
Is it progressive to have to prove your identity, day in, day out?
Richard Timney @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago

I find your statement a bit out of place; I do not recall Conservative Home being any different. This is a new blog site and will evolve and by in large it is for Labour supporters.

It would be odd if Labour MPs or activists did not attack David Cameron as he represents everything that most Labour activist and supporters are opposed to.

You seem to think Labour has an easy ride in the press and media and is always having its view heard? Far from it, there is often a built in cynicism from Journalists and reporters that does little to add to any debate and only achieves in distorting the balance and harming democracy.

Cameron gets of light in comparison, he makes endless announcements yet when do the press or media ever scrutinise his plans in any depth! Seems democracy works fine in the press and media as long as you’re on the right side?

Labour supporters and members are allowed to point out how bad Cameron is and rightly so, we need to get across the risks that he poses to the country.

This blog will most likely achieve the sort of debate that you may want to see, but its new and its finding it's feet...and while I value debate for all it is a Labour blog, so if people are opposed to Labour for whatever reason it dose not mean we have to change our direction to accommodate them.

Liam Byrne's article points out valid difference between Labour and Tories and in that you can read aspects of Labour Policy, so it’s clearly is on show and up for debate.
Gary Hills @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
Have you thought about sometimes posting something slightly f***ing shorter? Someone might read it then.
Phil C @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
Alright, Liam? That latte OK? Ready for your soup yet?

Does anyone on this site intend to write something about what Labour is going to do, rather than say "The Tories (who can't do anything anyway because they aren't the government) are useless"? We know the Tories are useless, we want to know why you're better.

And it looks to this impartial observer that you haven't got a clue why, yourselves.
Obnoxio The Clown @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
all of it? really?
Derek Draper @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
Camerons idea of progressive - His flagship policy is let a millionaire die tax free.....very progressive Dave.
RED RAG ! @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
the money thrown at schools has been a waste. google richard rose academy, utterly deplorable.
alan b'stard @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
Another day, another "Those Tories, eh ? What a shower!" article.

It occurs to me that perhaps the contributors to this blog so far have made a fundamental error in their assumptions. Is it perhaps the case that they think that the British public at large, and in particular their own 'grass roots' support base, at whom this blog is apparently aimed, are, by themselves, unable to critique Tory policy ?

If so, may I humbly point out that they're on a wrong 'un, and no mistake.

With regards to the 'Labour minded', constantly rubbishing Tory policy, while it may create a cuddly labour-esque echo chamber of blue baiting, is largely redundant, Lab loyalists are not going to vote that way, so your efforts will have achieved little.

As for the rest of us, well, if you think that I am not sufficiently informed or intelligent enough to draw my own conclusions, and yet I am, then you are insulting my intelligence and unlikely to garner my support as a result. In this case, you have harmed your cause.

If you make the same assumption, but are correct in your assessment, (viz, I am dim) then I am hardly likely to be able to make head nor tail of the turgid prose thus far delivered, in which case you have achieved nothing for your efforts.

Again, I hark back to what has so far been the only piece published here that I thought was any good, the one by Lord Mandelson, unaccustomed as I am to be able to find anything nice to say about the chap. This is not the traditional media, and even if it were, your media strategies have been discredited, in large part by the very same fellow who initially made such a success out of them.

How about a little more of the "embracing and engaging" and a bit less of the "lets just slag off the Tories, that always goes down well" ?

After all, if I wanted to here some Labour type slagging off David Cameron, I could easily switch on the radio, or the TV, and leave them going in the background while I read someone elses blog.

Just a thought.
A Nonymous @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
Another day, another "Those Tories, eh ? What a shower!" article.

It occurs to me that perhaps the contributors to this blog so far have made a fundamental error in their assumptions. Is it perhaps the case that they think that the British public at large, and in particular their own 'grass roots' support base, at whom this blog is apparently aimed, are, by themselves, unable to critique Tory policy ?

If so, may I humbly point out that they're on a wrong 'un, and no mistake.

With regards to the 'Labour minded', constantly rubbishing Tory policy, while it may create a cuddly labour-esque echo chamber of blue baiting, is largely redundant, Lab loyalists are not going to vote that way, so your efforts will have achieved little.

As for the rest of us, well, if you think that I am not sufficiently informed or intelligent enough to draw my own conclusions, and yet I am, then you are insulting my intelligence and unlikely to garner my support as a result. In this case, you have harmed your cause.

If you make the same assumption, but are correct in your assessment, (viz, I am dim) then I am hardly likely to be able to make head nor tail of the turgid prose thus far delivered, in which case you have achieved nothing for your efforts.

Again, I hark back to what has so far been the only piece published here that I thought was any good, the one by Lord Mandelson, unaccustomed as I am to be able to find anything nice to say about the chap. This is not the traditional media, and even if it were, your media strategies have been discredited, in large part by the very same fellow who initially made such a success out of them.

How about a little more of the "embracing and engaging" and a bit less of the "lets just slag off the Tories, that always goes down well" ?

After all, if I wanted to here some Labour type slagging off David Cameron, I could easily switch on the radio, or the TV, and leave them going in the background while I read someone else blog.

Just a thought.
A Nonymous @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
"As for Conservative planned cuts in government expenditure (hardly doing nothing), they were not as deep as Labour's own cuts according the latest budget. And seeing as Labour are in power, what are you going to cut?" - I agree that in some areas the government should cut spending (for example ID cards). However, I'm still against a reduction (or even a reduction in the increase) of government spending.

"If people kept more of their money, less would be taken and skimmed in 'government administration' (i.e. non-jobs). The middleman is cut out and therefore charities stand to gain especially if incentivised by tax breaks on charitable donations. Indeed government is crowding out, it is the arrogance of this government that it knows best" - I disagree with this. I think that if all government expenditure on charities was stopped (and taxes decreased to represent this), it would not be met by a sudden increase in donations by individuals.

"Lastly, care to comment on Obama's latest edict, as the public tighten their belts so should the administration?" - I agree with this, there are some projects where money should be saved, for example, bonuses to the NR bankers is ridiculous).
Tim Davies @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
When Labour can be honest about the income tax debacle (a backbench rebellion) then maybe your 'critique' of progressive Conservatism might be worth the pixels it's displayed on.

As for Conservative planned cuts in government expenditure (hardly doing nothing), they were not as deep as Labour's own cuts according the latest budget.

And seeing as Labour are in power, what are you going to cut?

Lastly, the voluntary sector existed long before this government came to power. Spending tax money on charities absolves people of their charitable responsibility. They pay taxes, taxes goes to charities, why should people give of their own volition?

Basic common sense.

If people kept more of their money, less would be taken and skimmed in 'government administration' (i.e. non-jobs). The middleman is cut out and therefore charities stand to gain especially if incentivised by tax breaks on charitable donations. Indeed government is crowding out, it is the arrogance of this government that it knows best.

I would have thought based on their current mastery of the mess we find ourselves in; it's patently clear you do not.

So? How about giving our money back because it's clear to see you cannot be trusted with it.

Also, how do you wrestle the fact that taxpayers money is going in bonuses to bank workers for mucking up the economy?

Now that's really progressive.

Lastly, care to comment on Obama's latest edict, as the public tighten their belts so should the administration?

Seeing as Labour are desperate to crawl up any available orifice of President Obama's (probably to hide) I guess that means that expenses claims will fall and you will all take a pay cut?

Fat chance.
Mike Thomas @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago
I see that the New York Times sees green shoots everywhere in the UK.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/business/worldbusiness/22pound.html?_r=1&ref=business
Bob Frost @ 54 weeks and 4 days ago