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Deliberative Democracy: how can we hear when the people speak?

Gu meBy Diana Smith / @mulberrybush

For all of us who want an election that is fought on the issues, the challenge of making it happen can at times seem daunting. I have seen enough on the doorsteps - at Crewe during the local by elections, and the results in the polling boxes in June - to understand what happens when we are dealing with an electorate that does not feel it has an effective means of making its voice heard, is essentially ill-informed and is therefore open to manipulation by what appear to be cynically orchestrated press campaigns.

One of the things I find quite alarming at present is the extent of the divide that is opening up between people who are informed and people who are not. In this age, we have more opportunity than ever before to find out the facts and share opinions. We also have endless opportunities to express our own opinions. But the sheer volume of words out there in itself becomes part of the problem.

A lot of people have identified that the internet and social media have a huge potential for bringing about the kind of empowerment that many people see as necessary - but we are not there yet. Because these questions have been on my mind for several years my attention was caught by an item on Radio 4 today regarding Deliberative Democracy.

A conference is being held in London involving James Fishkin, who is author of “When The People Speak”. The conference brings together a panel of participants who will consider 58 questions from the thousands submitted to @power_2010.

James Fiskin explains the principle behind his process:

“Our subject is how to achieve deliberative democracy: how to include everyone under conditions where they are effectively motivated to really think about the issues. This is the problem of how to fulfill two fundamental values—political equality and deliberation.”

I think his analysis of the current barriers to effective participation is useful. He sees four main problems

* Individuals choose not to take the time to be informed because of “rational ignorance”. If I have one opinion in millions why should I take the time and trouble to become really informed about politics or policy? My individual views will have only negligible effects.

* Second, Fiskin says the public has fewer “opinions” deserving of the name than are routinely reported in polls. Respondents to polls do not like to admit that they “don’t know” so they will choose an option, virtually at random, rather than respond that they have never thought about the issue.

* A third limitation is that even when people discuss politics or policy they do so mostly with people like themselves - those from similar backgrounds, social locations and outlooks.

Efforts to manipulate public opinion work best with an unattentive and/or uninformed public. If the public is unattentive, then it may not take much to persuade and it may be easy to prime. If it is uninformed, it may be manipulated even if it is highly engaged or even emotionally gripped by an issue. In that case, it may be easily misled through misinformation or primed to consider only certain dimensions of an issue.

I think this analysis will seem pretty accurate to many people. It certainly does to me.

An important aspect of James Fishkin’s work is that it measures the way in which the opinions of his representative groups actively change as they are given more information. The experiment going on in London this weekend is something that I think we should watch with interest.

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Posted on Jan 08, 2010 at 03:05pm


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Working class people, like Baroness Ashton and Lord Peter Mandelson understand the needs of the people without any effort. That is because, like Lady Kinnoch, they are working class. They are not posh like Mr Blair who went to Fettes or Mr Cameron who went to Eton. Working class people like Mr Balls went to a pay and display Grammar School.
Chavs, on the other hand are disgusting. They are the kind of people you see on the Jeremy Kyle show in the morning. YUK! They are not the kind of people you would like to see at a Dinner Party, are they? Imagine Lord Levy playing tennis with one of them or Lord Mandelson meeting one at a disco! I mean, really! Chavs do not even know what pate de fois is! They cannot even tell organic Chablis!
We want Working Class people in the Labour Party. Chavs are natural Tories or BNP which amounts to the same thing.
Mike Stallard @ 28 weeks and 4 days ago
Here is a short video clip from the start of the conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwSSpHmnRbI

Power_2010 are tweeting on the conference here.
http://twitter.com/Power_2010

diana smith @ 28 weeks and 6 days ago
For all of us who want an election that is fought on the issues

If you really meant that you would address issues such as our promised referendum on the Lisbon Treaty and Climategate.
Sean O'Hare @ 29 weeks ago
The court of public opinion was a handy stick for Harman to beat bankers with, but once that court turned its attention to MPs, then it became a voice to be ignored. Be they Labour,conservative or whatever, only when the public voice coincides with the political wish will we count
Rufus Farnsworth @ 29 weeks ago
The Court of Public Opinion would have handed Harman more than a £350 fine for her recent traffic offence...
Max Sceptic @ 29 weeks ago
'Second, Fiskin says the public has fewer “opinions” deserving of the name than are routinely reported in polls. Respondents to polls do not like to admit that they “don’t know” so they will choose an option, virtually at random, rather than respond that they have never thought about the issue.'

I'd like to see the raw data for this assertion.

What about never discussing politics or religion if you want to avoid an argument?
Thomas Fairfax @ 29 weeks ago
Interesting article, but there is an insurmountable problem. Politicians will not act even when the public have quite clearly told them of their wishes. For example, poll after poll has shown that the public are unhappy with immigration, want a referendum on the EU and do not believe in global warming having seen for themselves the falsified data. Will this government or the next or any mainstream party do anything about it? No not really, except for some wishy washy words in the run up to the election and a vague promise that will never be actioned. It is no good saying, we've listened to you, we've heard what you have to say, and we're going to carry on exactly as before.
Road Hog @ 29 weeks and 1 day ago
Road Hog ("It is no good saying, we've listened to you, we've heard what you have to say, and we're going to carry on exactly as before.")

It's called 'consultation' ;-)
Max Sceptic @ 29 weeks and 1 day ago