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Yesterday was the day the Tories said goodbye to the women’s vote

By Seema MalhotraShadow Cabinet

The attacks on Harriet Harman at Business Questions were the most vicious and sexist I have heard for a long time. She was right to not dignify their questions with an answer.

It is beyond me why valuable time in Parliament, at a time of recession and a need for hope and confidence in our country, that the Tory frontbench finds it is more productive to talk about the shoes that women MPs are wearing.

If the Tories want to talk about their record on women in political life, then yes, let’s have that debate.

They talk about having had the first woman Prime Minister. So what was her record?

At which point did Margaret Thatcher have six or more women in her Cabinet, which we have seen almost consistently under both Tony Blair and Gordon Brown? At which point, under and since Margaret Thatcher, did the Tories have the majority of women in the House of Commons?  Currently women make up more than 50% of the population, but 19.4% of MPs. After the 2005 election, the Tories had 17 women MPs, and the Labour Party had 98. Even the Liberal Democrats are hot on their tails with 10 women MPs.

So maybe we should take a look at local councillors. At 2008, we had 30.8% of women councillors. 0.8% of councillors (149) are ethnic minority women. Of these 149 heroines of our nation, 20% are in the Tory councillors, and 64% are Labour councillors.

Perhaps we should move to the positive action measures the Tories have in place. The A list? Say no more.

No, yesterday was truly the day that Cameron’s Conservatives showed themselves to be what they really are – and how stuck in the past they are. And the point is that individual Tory women MPs may want to see things change, but they will never have the critical mass of numbers of women at the top in the Tory Party that research shows any organisation, public or private, needs in order to turn things around and shake up the deeper cultural issues that hold back progress.

The demonstration of the Tories at Business Questions of the kind of Yah Boo politics that turns women off politics. Their performance was about playing to their schoolboy chums on the back benches, not about playing a public role in the nation’s political life.

Politics should be about principles and about debate. Not a debate about women’s attire that would be more appropriate for the sort of debate Parliament might have expected 200 years ago. If there is such disrespect for women politicians on the side of the Tories, how can women ever expect that they will be defenders of their needs and rights in Parliament.

Yesterday was truly the day that the Tories said goodbye to women’s votes. Every woman (and principled man) should listen to the debate and spread the word

Posted on Mar 13, 2009 at 05:47pm


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If women like you were able to distinguish between trivia and significance they would appreciate that feminism has failed not due to cultural or legal obstacles but due to those women politicians who feel that they are owed something by society.

Thirty years ago the Tories elected Thatcher because she was the best option and not because of her gender.

If you can't take a bit of banter then you have a long way to go.
Marek Marek @ 71 weeks and 2 days ago
Seema

Your profile make a point that you were the 'first Asian women to chair the Fabian Society'.

Can I ask what importance you attach to this?

Was it that the Fabian Society had been racist, and this event demonstrated that it was no longer the case?

Or was it that, as a self-labeled asian you believe you brought something to the role that a non-asian could not?

If the latter, and you believe asians bring something to the role that non-asians cannot, do you also believe that non-asians can bring something to roles, that asians cannot?

I would much appreciate it, if you would spell out these racial elements that you clearly think differntiate asians and non-asians in their work roles.

I am surprised you have such a view, as this is not something that I would have thought the Labour party would be very comfortable with (at least not in public).
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 71 weeks and 4 days ago
Really. Accusing people of racism if they mention their ethnic group seems a bit over the top.

It is a cliche that anyone brings their own experience, including ethnicity, to any situation. If you want an example of how an Asian might contribute something that a non Asian might not, I'll give you one.

In a consultation exercise in my part of the world, a predominantly Asian area was leafleted with materials in Asian languages. This seems like a perfectly fair piece of outreach to me. However, it had not occured to the consultation team that many Asian people can speak an Asian language without being able to read it. I don't think this would be as likely to occur to a European because if you speak (say) French, you can normally read it as well.

I am sure there are lots of other examples of people having insights from their own experience.

But in any case, its really not racist to mention facts about yourself.
James Powney @ 71 weeks and 1 day ago
James, you forgot to mention what colour you are
The Very Celia Stobart @ 71 weeks ago
"The attacks on Harriet Harman at Business Questions were the most vicious and sexist I have heard for a long time. She was right to not dignify their questions with an answer."

Really? Having read Hansard I can see that Douglas Hogg was rude, although Ms Harman's ambitions are ludicrous (not because of her sex but because she is patently not up to it), but otherwise it was all pretty mild stuff. And Douglas Hogg is no longer on the Tory front bench.

Alan Duncan, who is on the Tory front bench, has adopted a teasing style as shadow leader. It has been rather effective in deflating his opposite number.

As for the headline of this post, I doubt whether one woman voter in 100,000 is even aware of what Mr Duncan said. Last time I checked, the Tories were doing rather better with women voters than they were with men voters.
Mark Cannon @ 71 weeks and 4 days ago
The worst bloggers on LabourList by are far the whining feminists, and Seema Malhotra's patronising and cliche-ridden load of misandristic drivel is one of the worst.

I never believed in penis-envy, but now I have to wonder...
The Very Celia Stobart @ 71 weeks and 5 days ago
I was gonna say something totally unwitty like "you'd envy mine", but then it occured to me that the remark might inspire Seema to write another piece about what a sexist I am and and make us read it in order that we can all be equality re-educated.
Dan McCurry @ 71 weeks and 2 days ago
quote:"The worst bloggers on LabourList by are far the whining feminists, and Seema Malhotra's patronising and cliche-ridden load of misandristic drivel is one of the worst" unquote

No it's not honest! It's those idiot males who rolled on their backs all obedient like, and let the dat moos loose. I wouldn't wate your time with penis envy, never forget we can sit down comfortably to let out our pee. They just become objects to have the pee taken out of them :-)

If these women really want to be taken seriously, then they should start up their own blog, and have their own daily input. That way they would at least, showsome independance..... On second thoughts maybe things shold stay the same, the the editor can shine in a aubservient way....
j m-r @ 71 weeks and 4 days ago
And the worse commenter has to be the nasty, repugnant, whining, cliche-ridden Celia Stobart.
Northern Monkey @ 71 weeks and 4 days ago
She's funny.
Dan McCurry @ 71 weeks and 2 days ago
Speaking as a woman, who has brought up 5 children and is now a grandmother. I'd like to say something to you deary. Get a real job, at the same time grow up. I find your juvenile take, on women and their role in society both offensive and old politics.

A great deal was done to further womens' rights in society. But the way both you and Harman and your ilk go on, it does nothing but make light of better women than you that went there first.

It seems to me that apart from going out and living in the real world: a good dose of having children, working, maintaining a good relationshop with a significant other, and generally coming to terms with being a great woman who multi-tasks, you wil nevr get why women are, in fact far superior to men. Us real women don't need to shout about it, we are more than comfortable in our own skins and owning the knowledge for ourselves!

You should have read Hansard or watched for yourself, the trouble with your rant was it was so uninformed. I suggest you know what you are talking about next time...
j m-r @ 71 weeks and 6 days ago
I guess that says just about everything that needs to be said about this barking post.
Paul Pinfield @ 71 weeks and 5 days ago
Did you honestly think you would get away with this? Did you bank on women not bothering their pretty little heads with such beastly tasks as their own research? Did you expect women just to think what you tell them to think? I don't so here is the link to hansard:

http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm090312/debtext/90312-0004.htm#09031256000006

As you can see the comment was about Harman's self publicity with reference to her leadership ambitions. She was the one that mentioned shoes in her dealings with the press. And while you refer to the "tory front bench" you fail to mention that the man on record as bringing this up is Alan Duncan, the one member of that bench we can be sure is not objectifying Harman as a sex object.

May I suggest you write more? I would suggest your interventions will do more to convince ordinary women to vote for people who will not treat them with contempt.
Carlos H @ 71 weeks and 6 days ago
"Of these 149 heroines of our nation"... Jesus Christ! Are you on speed?
Paul Pinfield @ 72 weeks ago
This forum and party needs more real people with everyday life and business experiences and fewer political students, fringe committees chairs and tub thumping feminists.

Just a thought Derek.



Crazy Carrot @ 72 weeks ago
Yesterday was truly the day that the Tories said goodbye to women’s votes.

What a load of drivel. You're one of the "professionally aggrieved", aren't you? You may well believe all the tosh you write, but not every single women agrees with your fatuous viewpoint.

Get a life.
Obnoxio The Clown @ 72 weeks ago
Spot on, Obo.

It's at times like this that we wonder whether the Pope™ (brought to you by Whirlpool, emancipators of the distaff side since 1906) may actually have a point.
The Ink Slinger @ 72 weeks ago
Pull the other one Seema - it's got bells on.

Alan Duncan spent his time asking Harriet Harman about:
why the government was so slow in allowing the House to debate the economy in government time
whether the regional Select Committees were a good idea
legislation around rights to protest
the accountability of DCLG to Parliament
the Welfare Reform Bill
Harriet Harman's leadership ambitions

The Leader of the House was given as much respect as any other politician in the House.
Ricardo's Ghost @ 72 weeks ago
Seema, Your plain wrong and patronising attitude is tiresome.

Reading your CV I'm struck with the thought that maybe you've been involved in 'politics' for too much of your young life. Have you ever considered getting a real job in the real world?
Max Sceptic @ 72 weeks ago
Oh please! The women of Britain won't vote for the Tories because Alan Duncan took the piss out the dreadful Harriet Harman ? So that is the most important thing for women to consider when making their political judgements? Ignoring the deep deep shit that this country is in, contributed in large part by the gross mismanagement of Harman and her colleagues. You really really are so patronising in that consideration.
Pyers Symon @ 72 weeks ago
Absolutely correct, Seema. But it is important to say it to the women of Britain, and not simply to the converted. That is the aspect that the Tories win on time and time again.. Their Ya-Boos may be rubbish, but they get them out there, and people, in general, are likely to suck the sweet thats offered.
THE ARGUIST @ 72 weeks ago
Do you really think women are that stupid. Obviously you and Seema do. Women are concerned about all aspects of life not just equal rights as defined by Labour. This article is rubbish and badly written. I am staggered time and time again when I read articles here because of their poor quality, lack of insight, knowledge and critical analysis. Is this why Labour have lowered educational standards ? That is, they do not want people to recognise how thick they are! I find it truly depressing that nothing Labour says every gives me food for thought or makes me want to sit up a listen. Actually that is true of Politicians in general but Labour currently lead the way. Or maybe it is my working class background and the fact I grew up believing the educated were more intelligent and clever than me. How distressing to realise this is not true.
Bob Roberts @ 72 weeks ago
Bob, it's a good thing that women everywhere have men like you to explain what their concerns are.

Other than that can I just point out how many MEN have been replying to this post with quite aggressive language, if I weren't concerned by the backlash I might even suggest that the response is just a thinly veiled continuation of the Harman hating show.
Aidan Williams @ 71 weeks and 6 days ago
I not male and like all women can speak for myself.
Bob Roberts @ 71 weeks and 6 days ago
Can't stand the woman.

"...suck the sweet thats offered"? - This sums up Blair's relationship with Bush to a tee.
Man in the Street @ 72 weeks ago
Why are there no men members on here praising Harriet to the hilt in this way? Is this some sisterhood thing? Sewing circle?

Its becoming a bit like the Vagina Monologues without the fun.


chris jones @ 72 weeks ago
And the day the truth emerged about the criminal and corrupt antics of the New (sic) Labour party was a day to remember too.
Man in the Street @ 72 weeks ago
Is this The Harriet Harman Show? It's getting very dull.
Charlie Farley @ 72 weeks ago