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Cameron’s quango plans unlikely to result in any cost savings

CameronBy Will Straw / @wdjstraw

Politicians are meant to campaign in poetry and govern in prose. Today’s speech by David Cameron on reforming quangos was a discordant harmony. One note was aimed at a populist “slash and burn” audience and outlined the £64 billion cost of Britain’s 790 to 1100 quangos. The other was aimed at a more elite, “Sir Humphrey” audience and outlined that there were principles behind his approach. The problem is that the principles are so woolly and vague that they are unlikely to result in any cost savings at all.

Cameron set out the general implications for quangos under a Conservative government: “no quango will have the power to stray outside the scope of its responsibilities … [and] they must operate wholly within the financial resources allocated to them by Ministers.”

At the launch today I asked the Tory leader to provide specific examples of circumstances in which existing quangos had breached these principles. In his reply, he suggested that the Environment Agency had, by campaigning on the impact of climate change, over-reached the scope of its predecessor body, the National Rivers Authority, which was focused on flood defences. But Article (4)(1) of the Environment Act 1995 states that, “the principal aim of the Agency … [shall be] to protect or enhance the environment, taken as a whole, as to make the contribution towards attaining the objective of achieving sustainable development.” This is clearly consistent with outlining the effects of climate change.

In relation to the second point, Cameron drew attention to the Rural Payments Agency and HM Revenue and Customs as examples of quangos that had mishandled public resources. In 2006, RPA Chief Executive, Johnston McNeill, was fired when the RPA failed to pay out EU subsidies to thousands of farmers on time. In 2005, HMRC overpaid £1.9 billion in tax credits and then attempted to claw back the money from nearly 2 million families. But, disgraceful though these cases are, they are not examples of quangos living outside the “financial resources allocated to them” as Cameron stated in his speech.

David Cameron said, “I have many more examples that I could share with you.” That would be useful. As things stand there is little evidence that his principles for reform will result in any meaningful cost savings. As Andrew Neill uncovered on The Daily Politics today, the Tories have firm plans to create 17 new quangos and to remove just two: a net increase of 15.

Posted on Jul 06, 2009 at 06:04pm

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Mr Straw: I realkly do think if you want to comment continually on British politics, you should either make the decision to come back here to the UK to help your dad face the music, and hold his hand when the inevitable happens next year. Or stay there in the States enjoying yourself, and stop giving us the "benefit" of your views. There are far too many Quangos, and all most of them seem to be designed for is to provide well-paid anoydnye employment for party loyalists and placemen (and women). I wonder what Louise Casey would do without a quango to employ her? It would be interesting to find out.....
Alan Giles @ 30 weeks and 2 days ago
Labour has wasted so much money it's an embarrassment to read your turgid prose about the other guys. Let's have an idea from you - anyone! - about how the next Labour government is going to save taxpayers' money. Perhaps by not being elected again until 2020.
William Silver @ 30 weeks and 6 days ago
What a great blog name
Mike Aistrop @ 30 weeks and 6 days ago
More complete and utter Osborne from the Tories. They said the average yearly pay from the top 20 Qungocrats was £650k a year. A few hours later to back up the argument they released the list. Eight so called quangocrats are executives from the BBC, three are from Channel 4 and they even quote execs from BNFL and the FSA.

These idiots want to be the next government and they do not know the difference between a broadcaster and a quango.
RED RAG ! @ 30 weeks and 6 days ago
Good attack the quangos. Anything which undermines the uselss New Labour nomenklatura which sits on these bodies is fine by me. Many of these have built portfolio jobs out of these bodies, enrichening themselves into the process, whilst producing nothing of any consequence. Others have been parachuted into high level jobs by virtue of being part of the New Labour Oxbridge mafia. With the destruction of the jobs of new Labour lobbyists who have spent the last 10 years seeking to pimp the Goverment at least some good may come out of Labour defeat at the next election. However that will be no solace to working people who have been let down by Labour and will suffer even worse under the Tories.
Colin Adkins @ 31 weeks ago
'he said his brief was to find ways to save money... '

excellent , gets my vote.
david cheeseman @ 31 weeks ago
There are many quangos not just a few, lets start with Monitor, [oversees ] nhs trusts, the crb,etc, and of course baby Straws father is overseeing an expensive new supreme court development, costing millions of pounds [for what.]]..Blair ran on support groups , and of course the civil service doubled in size.
martin lewis @ 31 weeks ago
Straw Jnr - maybe you are right, and there are no savings to be had anywhere and the UKs inability to meet its commitments means that our destiny is oblivion.

But that is labour thinking and labour talk. Soon, it will not something we will need concern ourselves with for a decade or two, once the party of the future leads us - go tory!
tory 'killed for telling the uncomfortable truth' troll @ 31 weeks ago
Richard, just been over to Labourhome and read your article, but I don't understand. Cameron is proposing outsourcing elements of the NHS to private hospitals that can match NHS costings? Is that right?

I may be misunderstanding, but would that not benefit the NHS, relieving pressure on certain areas and passing the task to a private concern for the same price?

Could you explain it to me without the quotes from the Conservatives, just plain English. I understand the point about people controlling the NHS who are not elected, just not what why bringing in private hospitals for the same price would be a bad thing?
Bill Dewison @ 31 weeks ago
...and you forgot to mention that Cameron intends to create a mega-quango called the NHS Board (which I have pointed out many times on this forum and I have recently blogged about on Labourhome).

David Cameron is such a silly man, he blusters about quangos and yet he clearly forgets that he wants to create a super-powerful, mega-quango with a budget of over £100bn.
Richard Blogger @ 31 weeks ago
By quango Mike, does he mean things like smoking cessation officer and deer liason officer?

If he does mean that, I would welcome that change - preferably right now, but I'd welcome the change.
Bill Dewison @ 31 weeks ago
The issue discussed today is a Tory desire to review every single government department and their interaction with these quangos; hence their desire to have access to Treasury data denied to them by the government.

The Tory honesty is creating that important dialogue with the public; they are going to cut quango spending and they are going to re-direct it in places.

If our democratic process is to be revived, accountability must to given to our elected officials not unelected ones. That is the theme of 'progressive' conservatism, power from the localist bottom-up not centrist top-down.

Will he deliver? The public sentiment on their aims is with them and not Labour; the public would prefer cuts in government spending to tax rises. The Tory have a much better track record on responsible government spending than this government.

Being 14% GDP in deficit and Labour's atrocious economic mismanagment means that the Tories have to deliver serious government cuts in spending.

As for Labour policy, the Tresury team met at the weekend to discuss an austerity 'Plan B' budget of swigeing cuts of 20% in current government spending.

The big difference here is Cameron is being honest; Brown can't even admit in real terms that he is cutting spending.
Mike Thomas @ 31 weeks ago
Hi Grassroots, I think the point of Will's piece was to show that the Conservatives may sound like they wish to do all the things you say, but in fact they have no real way of achieving them. Once again, Cameron sounds plausible, but dig a little deeper and the cupboard is empty. And Cameron acknowledged that some quangos are desirable, in fact based on the criteria he set out, he accepted that there was a need for the vast majority of them since they tend to administer technical things such as licensing which need to be independent of Parliament and politicians. So you are creating a choice which doesn't exist between Labour and the Conservatives.
Jessica Asato @ 31 weeks ago
Grassroots TrueBlueBlood

The British electorate deserves more than the 'main thrust', prior to the election. Cameron is just relying on speculative, uncosted sound bite-heavy proposals, which he hopes the public want to hear. Unfortunately for him, he'll inevitably be proven to be a charlatan, hopefully sooner rather than later. For info, I met with a member of the Shadow Treasury team in Portcullis House about 3 months ago. At the start of the meeting, he said his brief was to find ways to save money...
Gabe Trodd @ 31 weeks ago
The main thrust is clear. Labour wish to increase / maintain an unsustainable number of quangos, whilst the Conservatives wish to gain cost efficiencies, cut bureaucracy and reduce quangos. The sooner that Labour undersatnd that there is no need for quangos and that Parliament and select committees offer a better route the better.

However, given the lack of control on government spending I guess that this wont be soon.
Grassroots TrueBlueBlood @ 31 weeks ago